X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: engels@win.tue.nl (Andre Engels) Subject: [EXP] Franklin Land Expeditions (bounce repost) To:= discovery@win.tue.nl Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:44:31 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+= PL43 (25)] Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl This message was originally refused by majordomo because it came from a= non-subscribed message. Such messages are refused because most of the time= they are spam, but sometimes a bona fide message like this one is rejected= too. ----- Forwarded message ----- Hi everybody: The account of Franklin's first overland expedition ("Journey to the Shores= of the Polar Sea" published in 1823) has been a great classic of the= exploration literature. Parts of it have been re-published and I would like= to compile a bibliography of reprints. I would appreciate any information that list memebrs might have esp. about reprints in languages other than English. --=20 Cheers, b. =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D Dr. Bosko= Loncarevic, P. Eng. -=20 CD-Academia Books (a Division of PINETREE IT) e-mail: infocd@cd-books.com Web site: http://www.cd-books.com/ Phone: 902-468-3392 Fax: 902-468-6865 s-mail: Suite 302 - 780 Windmill Road, DARTMOUTH,NS, B3B 1T3 ----- End of forwarded message ----- --=20 Andre Engels, engels@win.tue.nl, ICQ #6260644= http://www.win.tue.nl/cs/fm/engels/index_en.html A child is not a glass that is filled but a fire that is set ablaze. -- N.N. X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: ExJournal@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:16:55 EST To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: Re: [EXP] Franklin Land Expeditions (bounce repost) X-Mailer: AOL= 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl You may want to contact Janet Baldwin at The Explorers Club Library. She is= not on this list, but is knowledgable and has quite a librrary of early= arctic exploration material under her charge. I think she can be reasched= at jbaldwin @ explorers.org. Regards, Carl Schuster X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: "Bertil H=E4ggman" To:= Subject: [EXP] Franklin Land Expeditions (bounce repost) Date: Sat, 20 Mar= 1999 14:41:47 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By= Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl For Sir John Franklin enthusiasts, like myself, there is a list managed by= Professor Russell A. Potter, rpklc@etal.uri.edu Professor Potter is can certainly advice on the classic on Franklin Land= Expeditions. Bertil Haggman bertil.haggman@helsingborg.se X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:52:14 -0500 From: Bosko Loncarevic Organization: Pinetree= Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: Re: [EXP] Franklin Land Expeditions (bounce repost) Sender:= owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Bertil H=E4ggman wrote: >=20 > For Sir John Franklin enthusiasts, like myself, > there is a list managed by Professor Russell A. Potter, > rpklc@etal.uri.edu >=20 > Professor Potter is can certainly advice on the classic > on Franklin Land Expeditions. >=20 > Bertil Haggman > bertil.haggman@helsingborg.se Is that list still active ? I subscribed to it about a year ago and have not= had anymessages from it so far. --=20 Cheers, b. =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D Dr. Bosko= Loncarevic, P. Eng. -=20 CD-Academia Books (a Division of PINETREE IT) e-mail: pitech@fox.nstn.ca Web site: http://www.cd-books.com/ Phone: 902-468-3392 Fax: 902-468-6865 s-mail: Suite 302 - 780 Windmill Road, DARTMOUTH, NS, B3B 1T3 X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: "Bertil H=E4ggman" To:= Subject: [EXP] Sir John Franklin and von Payer Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999= 19:10:41 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By= Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl >Is that list still active ? I subscribed to it about a year ago and have >not had anymessages from it so far. Indeed it is, but the traffic has been slow lately. It is a great list and= you should, if you are interested in Sir John Franklin, try Professor= Potter's webpage with links. My own interest is just now focusing on the famous oil paintings of the Austrian Arctic explorer von Payer on the final time of the Franklin expedition. Von Payer was the discoverer (with others) of Franz Joseph Land. Best wishes Bertil Haggman X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: "Richard Pflederer" To: Subject: [EXP] Sir Stamford Raffles Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:32:26 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By= Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl =
Raffles was head of government of Java= from 1811 to 1816 during the brief British period of control of the= colony.
 
I need to touch on this period in his= life for a lecture I am doing in June.
 
I have a few sources, but would be interested in additional= references from members of this group.
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Richard Pflederer
X-POP3-Rcpt:= pvdk@delftnet X-Lotus-FromDomain: AC_TELEKOM@AC FRANKFURT NET@ANDERSEN CONSULTING From:= "Christian Farwig" To: discovery@win.tue.nl Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:15:07 +0100 Subject: Re: [EXP] Sir John Franklin and von Payer Sender:= owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Bertil, would you please be so kind and post the URL of Prof.Potters page (beautiful= alliteration). Thanks, Christian n n n n X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: "Bertil H=E4ggman" To:= Subject: [EXP] Professor Potter's webpage Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:30:56= +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By= Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl =
would you please be so kind and post the URL of Prof.Potters= page
(beautiful alliteration).
 
Suggest you contact Professor Potter in= person.=20 It was
some time since I= visited his webpage on Sir John
Franklin.
 
=
 
Best Franklin greetings
 
Bertil Haggman
X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:56:06 +0200 (CEST) From: "Johan Deckers"= Subject: [EXP] Vlaenderen and Brasil X-Spanska: Yes To: undisclosed-recipients:;;@win.tue.nl Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Attachment Converted: "C:\Documenten\Eudora\Attach\Happy99.exe" X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:04:52 -0500 From: Matthew Boddy Organization: InVigris Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language:= en,es,es-MX To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: Re: [EXP] Vlaenderen and Brasil Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl This email has a virus attached. Do not run the .exe. Johan Deckers wrote: > Name: Happy99.exe > Happy99.exe Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: x-uuencode -- Matthew Boddy, Director -- Business Development Ioannis Papandreou, Director= -- Technology Cormelignum -- Premium Surfaces Technologies A Member of the= InVigris Group Work Email: invigris-group@home.com Work: (313) 5067108 Fax: (810) 7928453 X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: "J.B. Lethbridge" Organization:= Tuebingen University Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:53:18 +0100 X-Mailer: Arachne V1.49;beta To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: [EXP] Virus Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl I have just received what LOOKS like two copies of this (follwoing) message= from Mr Dekkers via the list. One of them contained a virus called 'HAPPY', as an attachment. I haven't= found out what it does (I rather think its one of those which attaches= itelf to emails automatically), but my virus checker caught it, and while= trying to clean it up crashed the machine twice. Just delete the mail, and don't open any files labeled happy, and you'll be= safe enough. Sorry if I'm the 100th person to alert the list! Julian Lethbridge On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:56:58 +0200, Johan Deckers wrote: > On a worldmap in the 1587 edition of Ortelius' Theatrum Orbis Terrarum, I > discovered two islands in the Northern Atlantic area: Vlaenderen and= Brasil. > I found them also on maps by Mercator and his son Rumold. > Vlaenderen was located on the height of France, Brasil on the heigth as > South-Ireland. (I hope I express myself good, because I'm Dutch speaking). > Is there any one who has access to the Synonimia Geographica or Thesaurus > Geographicae by Ortelius, or can some one tell me more about those= islands, > where they come from, who named them and when they did appear and= dissapear > on the maps. > Thanks. > Johan Deckers -- Arachne V1.49;beta, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:44:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lawrence Henderson= Subject: Re: [EXP] Vlaenderen and Brasil or "Why= are you swearing at me?" 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Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Dick - If you get the same answer I did when the same virus showed up on= another group recently, it will be that your Mac saved you - and there's no= harm done. If you saw fireworks it is bad. The same nonsense came in on my Mac and there were no repercussions. The advice I got was to never open an attachment on e-mail - they can be= put on without the sender's knowledge. This one apparently is fairly easy= to dump but I don't have a clue as to how. Our Webmaster on the group told= us what to do. But I repeat, I don't think your computer is infected. Dee Dee Longenbaugh The Observatory, ABAA 235 Second Street Juneau, Alaska 99801 deelong@alaska.net 907/586-9676 fax 907/586-9606 X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:06:40 -0500 From: WRB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: Re: [EXP] Vlaenderen and Brasil or "Why are you swearing at me?"= Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Excuse me for asking, but I opened the above named e-mail that contained all= the garbage that Dekkers sent from a Belgian address. Will this, in itself,= infect my computer? The above message was not an .exe or .com attachment. I'd be grateful for some information . . . let us hope, reassuring= inforamtion. Thank you Richard Burack X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:00:59 -0500 From: Matthew Boddy Organization: InVigris Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language:= en,es,es-MX To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: [EXP] [Non-EXP] Quick Less on Viruses Sender:= owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Check out the two best anti-virus software program companies: www.mcafee.com (mcafee virus scan) www.norton.com (norton anti-virus) They tell you: 1) It is IMPOSSIBLE to contract a computer virus by opening an email 2) = You can ONLY obtain a virus by running/executing a .EXE file You (your computer) were (was) not effected (infected). Be reassured. Just delete the mail and you will be fine. WRB wrote: > Excuse me for asking, but I opened the above named e-mail that contained > all the garbage that Dekkers sent from a Belgian address. Will this, in > itself, infect my computer? > > The above message was not an .exe or .com attachment. > > I'd be grateful for some information . . . let us hope, reassuring > inforamtion. > > Thank you > Richard Burack -- Matthew Boddy, Director -- Business Development Ioannis Papandreou, Director= -- Technology Cormelignum -- Premium Surfaces Technologies A Member of the= InVigris Group Work Email: invigris-group@home.com Work: (313) 5067108 Fax: (810) 7928453 X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet X-Sender: pvdk@delftnet.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 29 Mar= 1999 08:41:37 +0200 To: maphist@harvarda.harvard.edu, discovery@win.tue.nl From: Peter van der= Krogt Subject: [EXP] Happy99 virus again Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Dear all, It is a good practice to NEVER run attached exe-files if the origin is not= known and/or you did not ask for them. My virus scanner recognizes the= virus when it is downloading from the server. I don't even get it on my= disk. Happy 99 was sent to MapHist earlier on 15 February 1999. Deleting the e-mail message is not always enough if attachments are stored= in a special directory (as with Eudora). In that case you must delete the= file happy99.exe from that directory (it doesn't hurt when it stays there,= it only infects your machine if you run the program; but it is better to be= safe and delete it from there). Please to all those who have ran happ99.exe: See:= http://www.pspl.com/trojan_info/win32/happy99.htm how to clean your= machine, otherwise you are spreading the virus yourself too. I copy from this page: You will not get infected by Happy99 merely by downloading the trojan file. You will have to execute it to get infected. The modified WSOCK32.DLL has routines to detect the email and newsgroup= postings made by the user. It will send a copy of the SKA.EXE file renamed= as happy99.exe to every user or newsgroup to whom the user has sends an= email. Each recipient will get the email only once and the trojan will not= send repeat email to the same user. It will send a separate email retaining= the subject of the first email with the file as an attachment. The trojan= also maintains the file LISTE.SKA which contains the list of all email= addresses and newsgroups to which this file has been sent. The unique= function of this trojan is that it can spread on its own. Happy99 first apeared in January 1999 and it is reported to have affected a= lot of users. Peter ______________________________________________________ Visit the MapHist WWW= page: http://kartoserver.geog.uu.nl/HTML/STAFF/krogt/maphist.htm New! Coronelli= Society Home Page: http://ezines.onb.ac.at:8080/coronelli/ YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Dr Peter van der= Krogt Map Historian, Explokart Research Program Faculty of Geographical Sciences,= University of Utrecht P.O. Box 80.115 3508 TC UTRECHT, The Netherlands Home page: http://kartoserver.geog.uu.nl/HTML/STAFF/krogt/krogt.htm= Genealogy page: http://www.delftnet.nl/~pvdk/ e-mail:= p.vanderkrogt@geog.uu.nl and pvdk@delftnet.nl Fax +31 15 212 6063 YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY PER ANGUSTA AD AUGUSTA YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: "J.B. Lethbridge" Organization:= Tuebingen University Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:38:09 +0100 X-Mailer: Arachne V1.49;beta To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: [EXP] Virus Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:00:59 -0500, Matthew Boddy wrote: Not quite that simple: Some mime programmes (part of email) will, in the= attempt to decode the attachment (or the code in the body of the message),= effectively open the file in the process. That's what happened here, and= why the anti-virus went off. It is generally true that you can't infect your machine without deliberately= running the exe or com (etc) attachments, but not always.=20 The importance and effectiveness of good anti-virus software cannot be= over-emphasized. Those for Windows envirnoments are cheap, those for Dos= free (Mcafee and Solomon have free, updateable Dos versions) Julian Lethbridge > Check out the two best anti-virus software program companies: > www.mcafee.com (mcafee virus scan) > www.norton.com (norton anti-virus) > They tell you: > 1) It is IMPOSSIBLE to contract a computer virus by opening an email > 2) You can ONLY obtain a virus by running/executing a .EXE file > You (your computer) were (was) not effected (infected). Be reassured. > Just delete the mail and you will be fine. > WRB wrote: >> Excuse me for asking, but I opened the above named e-mail that contained >> all the garbage that Dekkers sent from a Belgian address. Will this, in >> itself, infect my computer? >> The above message was not an .exe or .com attachment. >> I'd be grateful for some information . . . let us hope, reassuring >> inforamtion. >> Thank you >> Richard Burack > -- > Matthew Boddy, Director -- Business Development > Ioannis Papandreou, Director -- Technology > Cormelignum -- Premium Surfaces Technologies > A Member of the InVigris Group > Work Email: invigris-group@home.com > Work: (313) 5067108 > Fax: (810) 7928453 -- Arachne V1.49;beta, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: rlb To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: Re: [EXP] Vlaenderen and Brasil Date: Mon, 29 Mar 99 08:30:27 Comment: Turkce karekter filtresinden gecirildi. Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl I believe Mr Deckers owes the list the= courtesy of an explanation. The complete headers of his infected message are below if anyone missed or= needs them. Best regards, Bob Bragner Istanbul =3D=3D=3D Begin quote >From svin12.win.tue.nl!win.tue.nl!owner-discovery Sun Mar 28 23:14:10 1999= Received: from svin12.win.tue.nl by bbs.doruk.com.tr id aa19639; 28 Mar 99 23:13 TSI Received: from majordom@localhost by svin12.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for discovery-list id VAA11161. Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:56:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received:= from root@svin04 [131.155.70.154] by svin12.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for id VAA11150 (ESMTP). Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:56:11 +0200 (MET DST)= Received: from plutonium.uunet.be [194.7.15.87] by svin04.win.tue.nl= (8.8.7) for id VAA13529 (ESMTP). Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:56:09 +0200 (MET DST)= Received: from pub00721 (pool02b-194-7-144-248.uunet.be [194.7.144.248]) by plutonium.uunet.be (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA23643; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:56:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999= 21:56:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id:= <199903281956.VAA23643@plutonium.uunet.be> From: "Johan Deckers"= Subject: [EXP] Vlaenderen and Brasil X-Spanska: Yes To: undisclosed-recipients:;@win.tue.nl Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Precedence: bulk Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Attachment Converted: "C:\Documenten\Eudora\Attach\Happy99.exe" X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: rlb To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: Clarification and apology Re: [EXP] Vlaenderen and Brasil Date:= Mon, 29 Mar 99 11:40:24 Comment: Turkce karekter filtresinden gecirildi. Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Everybody, In a message I posted to the list today giving the complete headers of Mr= Deckers' Merry-infected message I quoted= the first five lines of the virus code. A member of the list has pointed= out to me that his mail-reader (Eudora) converted those lines to an "exe"= file anyhow. Be assured that that file will not infect your system. It will not run even= if you try and make it run. (It might lock up your system though.) I never ran the merry.exe file on my system and without the executable being= run, my system can't be infected. Just to be sure (in case this was really= "Merry Mark II" or something) I ran a check on my system as soon as I got= the warning message and everything was neat and clean. It didn't occur to me that a mail reader would convert even a partial or= broken file without giving a warning. I must remember that. And I apologize= for any agitation my message may have caused anyone. Bob Bragner Istanbul --- Kanyak's Doghouse X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:35:13 -0500 From: WRB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) To: discovery@win.tue.nl Subject: Re: [EXP] Vlaenderen and Brasil or "Why are you swearing at me?"= Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Dee Longenbaugh wrote: > Dick - If you get the same answer I did when the same virus showed up > on > another group recently, it will be that your Mac saved you - and > there's no > harm done. If you saw fireworks it is bad. > The same nonsense came in on my Mac and there were no > repercussions. > The advice I got was to never open an attachment on e-mail - > they > can be put on without the sender's knowledge. This one apparently is > fairly easy to dump but I don't have a clue as to how. Our Webmaster > on the > group told us what to do. But I repeat, I don't think your computer > is > infected. > Dee > > Dee Longenbaugh > The Observatory, ABAA > 235 Second Street > Juneau, Alaska 99801 > deelong@alaska.net > 907/586-9676 > fax 907/586-9606 Mine isn't a Mac; it's a PC. X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: engels@win.tue.nl (Andre Engels) Subject: [EXP] Re: Vlaenderen and Brasil To: discovery@win.tue.nl,= maphist@harvarda.harvard.edu Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:21:45 +0200 (MET= DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Sender:= owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Johan Deckers wrote: > On a worldmap in the 1587 edition of Ortelius' Theatrum Orbis Terrarum, I > discovered two islands in the Northern Atlantic area: Vlaenderen and= Brasil. > I found them also on maps by Mercator and his son Rumold. > Vlaenderen was located on the height of France, Brasil on the heigth as > South-Ireland. (I hope I express myself good, because I'm Dutch speaking). > Is there any one who has access to the Synonimia Geographica or Thesaurus > Geographicae by Ortelius, or can some one tell me more about those= islands, > where they come from, who named them and when they did appear and= dissapear > on the maps. I do not know about Vlaenderen, but Brazil is probably Hy-Brasil. Here is= what Morison writes about it: Hy-Brasil appears off Ireland on the Angelino Dulcert Chart of 1325, on = numerous charts of the following century, and on many later ones. It is = usually represented as a round island with a strait through the middle, = located within a hundred miles of West Ireland; sometimes it is two = separate semi-circular islands like the two halves of a walnut. Hy-Brasil = floats off the Irish coast near enough to be sighted from shore. Fishermen = of the Aran Islands told Professor Westropp of the Royal Irish Academy that= it appeared every seven years; he saw it himself in 1872! "Just as the sun= went down a dark island suddenly appeared far out to sea, but not on the = horizon. It had two hills, one wooded, between these, from a low plain, = rose towers and curls of smoke." The name Hy-Brasil (later corrupted to O'Brazil) means simply Isle of the = Blest in Gaelic; it has nothing to do with the red dyewood which gave its = name to Brazil, or with St. Brendan [1]. it is obviously the product of a = legend similar to Brendan's Land of Promise, representing in a roughh, hard= age the human longing for a land where there is no sorrow or struggle, no = old age, no death or dissolution. Nobody, it seems, has traced the origin = of Hy-Brasil in Irish literature, but all folk tales respecting it are very= similar. The island is a Gaelic Elysian Fields where the souls of the = blessed sojourn before proceeding to Heaven. It is an enchanted island, = never still; now sighted by a shepherd from high Achill, again glimpsed = through fog off the Aran Islands, or appearing to the crew of a vessel = rounding the Blaskets. For the Irish lived on the edge of the Old World, = and used their vivid imaginations to penetrate the mist and gloom of the = unknown ocean. No living man has placed foot on Hy-Brasil, but it is said = that if you could get near enough to throw fire ashore, you would be well = received. [...] Although the Irish nourished this beautiful myth, sober English merchants = of Bristol, ignoring the warning that none but a Celt could find it, = searched for the elusive island. They financed a series of voyages in = search of Hy-Brasil, beginning in 1480; and these, as we shall see, are = connected with John Cabot's voyage of 1497, just as Antilia figured in = Columbus's plans five years earlier. Men of Bristol never found Hy-Brasil or any island where it was supposed = to be; but the map-makers would not let it go. Successive charts of the = sixteenth and seventeenth century show it, round as an apple, off the = Blaskers, occasionally adding a second "I. de Brazil" off Spain or Africa. As early as 1560 the shadowy isle begins to move west and is found= snuggling off Newfoundland; but it always floats back to Ireland. An= account of a fictitious visit to it by Captain John Nisbet was a London= best-seller in 1675. Jeffrey's _American Atlas_ of 1776 places O'Brazil on= latitude 51N and longitude 17.34'W, but he does call it "imaginary." John= Purdy's "New, elegant & highly approved Chart of the Atlantic ocean,= exhibiting every Rock, Shoal and Danger known or supposed to exist" (New= York, 1832) lived up to this promise. He even lays down the day-by-day= track of the ship _Atlas_ from Portsmouth, which _found_ "Brasil Rock= (high)" on 8 February 1787 at latitude 50.50'N, longitude 15.20'W. A.G. Findlay's _Memoir, Descriptive and Explanatory, of the North Atlantic= Ocean_ spots "Brasil Rock" at latitude 51.10'N, longitude 16W, about 250 = miles west of soutern Ireland, where the mariners of "Bristowe" were= looking for it in the fifteenth century! Findlay admitted that its= existence had been doubted, but as it had been "seen" in 1791 by the= master of an English merchantman who said it was a high, bold-to islet= which he passed within a biscuit-toss, he could not dismiss it as= fictitious. Findlay's doubts increased, and he finally eliminated Brasil= from his chart in 1865. But it was some years before those old= "blue-backs" ceased to be used by mariners; and the British Admiralty,= even more conservative, did not take the island off their charts until= 1873. The Reverend Edward Everett Hale, visiting the bridge of S.S.Siberia= in April of that year, was amused to find Brasil in the traditional spot,= although the master admitted that steamers had sailed over it hundreds of= times. Returning home in July, Hale found a new chart on board with no= Isle of Brasil; so he reported to the American Atiquarian Society that he= had been "in at the death" of this fabulous island. Not quite. Map-makers, loath to give up their favorite movable island, = attached its name to Brazil Rock, now safely anchored for all time off Cape= Sable, Nova Scotia. In the midst of swirling tide rips it constitutes a = hazard in the fogs which infest that coast as to call from mariners = sentiments and language highly inappropriate for Hy-Brasil, the Isle of the= Blest. 1: One of the islands of St. Brendan was also called Brazil - A.E. source: Samuel Eliot Morison: The European Discovery of America. The= Northern Voyages. A.D. 500-1600. New York: Oxford University Press (1971). all in all: Where they came from & who named them: Irish mythology arrived on the maps:= 1325 disappeared: 1873 (!) Morison also gives a bibliography. It is probably a bit outdated now, but= anyhow: Thomas J. Westropp: "Brazil and the Legendary Islands of the North= Atlantic," Royal Irish Academy _Proceedings_, 3rd ser., XXX (1912), sec.= C, pp. 223-260 Denis O'Donoghue, _Brendaniana_. Dublin (1893), pp. 298-305= Justin Winsor: _Narrative and Critical History_, I, pp. 49-51, II, p.36= Andre L'Hoist: "L'origine du nom Bresil" in _Cong. do Mundo Portugues_ III,= i, pp. 403-426 --=20 Andre Engels, engels@win.tue.nl, ICQ #6260644= http://www.win.tue.nl/cs/fm/engels/index_en.html A child is not a glass that is filled but a fire that is set ablaze. -- N.N. X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet X-Sender: pvdk@delftnet.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 31 Mar= 1999 18:34:40 +0200 To: discovery@win.tue.nl From: Peter van der Krogt Subject: [EXP] SNHE website Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Dear all,=20 Try this site of the Dutch Historical Expeditions Foundation: http://home.wxs.nl/~prins392/home.html ______________________________________________________ Visit the MapHist WWW= page: http://kartoserver.geog.uu.nl/HTML/STAFF/krogt/maphist.htm New! Coronelli= Society Home Page: http://ezines.onb.ac.at:8080/coronelli/ YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Dr Peter van der= Krogt Map Historian, Explokart Research Program Faculty of Geographical Sciences,= University of Utrecht P.O. Box 80.115 3508 TC UTRECHT, The Netherlands Home page: http://kartoserver.geog.uu.nl/HTML/STAFF/krogt/krogt.htm= Genealogy page: http://www.delftnet.nl/~pvdk/ e-mail:= p.vanderkrogt@geog.uu.nl and pvdk@delftnet.nl Fax +31 15 212 6063 YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY PER ANGUSTA AD AUGUSTA YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: "Bertil H=E4ggman" To:= Subject: [EXP] Otto Sverdrup Centennial Expedition (OSCE) Date: Wed, 31 Mar= 1999 19:01:41 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By= Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl =
The links between the polar neighbours= of Norway and
Canada are as old= as the earliest contacts between the
Old= and New Worlds. A thousand years ago the
Vikings attempted settlement in what is now the
=
province of Newfoundland. Nine hundred years later,= aty
the turn of the last century during 1898-1902,= Captain
Otto Sverdrup took the same vesterveien, "the= westward way",
to chart, explore, and study what have= become
Canada's northernmost lands. The= Canadian High Arctic
is rich in Norwegian names as a testament to Sverdrup's=
emonently succesful voyage in the famous FRAM,= later
to be used by Roald Amundsen for the expedition= that
conquered the South Pole.
 
The great expedition of Otto Sverdrup will be remembered= on
June 24, 1999, which was the original departure date of= the
FRAM (St. Han's Day), when the expedition yacht of= the
Otto Sverdrup Centennial Expedition NORTHANGER= leaves
Norway with a joint Norwegian-Canadian crew flying= the
flags of the two countries and of the newly= proclaimed
Canadian Nunavut territory in which much of the= expedition
will take place. En route the expedition brings= greetings
to Greenland and Iceland. The last port of call is= Grise
Fiord, named by Sverdrup and today the site of= Canada's
northernmost settlement. The ship then travels along= the
coast of Ellesmere Island to its winter harbour, close= to the site
of Sverdrup's wintering at the turn of the last= century
(1899-1900).
 
In the early spring the party embarks on a 8-12 week= sledging journey
across Norwegian Bay and onwards to Axel Heiberg Island,= the
largest member of the Sverdrup Archipelago. The party= visits
historical Sverdrup sites, explores this infrequently= travelled
majestic island, and celebrates Constitution Day,= Syttende mai
(May 17th) with a centennial dedication, the preferred= location
being Cape Southwest, near Sverdrup's initial landfall= on Axel Heiberg
Island.
 
With the break up of the ice in late summer of 2000, the= expedition
leaves harbour at last to retrace Sverdrup's route= southward of a
century before. NORTHANGER makes a special visit to= Iqualuit to
celebrate its new-found status as the capital of= Nunavut,
the Inuit territory declared on April 1, 1999. The yacht= returns
to Norway and a filming project concludes with the= welcome
of the returning crew.
 
The OSCE is part of the millenium celebration of the= Vikings
in North America.
 
Please visit the site of the= expedition:
 
http://www.sverdrup2000.org
 
Watch out for a future mail from me on the original= expedition,
which chartered 160,000 square km of newly discovered= land.
 
Bertil Haggman, Sweden
= X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: "Bertil H=E4ggman" To:= Subject: [EXP] Tundra Northwest 99 (TNW 99) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:31:33= +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By= Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl =
The secrets of the Arctic Canadian= tundra might
be reveiled when= the Swedish expedition TNW 99
will follow the North West Passage on a= Canadian
icebreaker, Louis S. St-Laurent= starting this summer.=20
70 researchers will study animals= and plants along this
historically disputed passage= first navigated by Norwegian
Roald Amundsen 1903-06 on the= small fishing vessel
GJOA with a seven man crew.
 
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X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet From: "Johan Deckers" To:= Subject: Re: [EXP] SNHE website Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:40:11 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By= Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Peter, I tried the site the site you mentioned, but I got the message "404 not= found" back Johan Deckers -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Peter van der Krogt Aan: discovery@win.tue.nl= Datum: woensdag 31 maart 1999 19:06 Onderwerp: [EXP] SNHE website >Dear all, > >Try this site of the Dutch Historical Expeditions Foundation: > >http://home.wxs.nl/~prins392/home.html > > > > >______________________________________________________ >Visit the MapHist WWW page: >http://kartoserver.geog.uu.nl/HTML/STAFF/krogt/maphist.htm >New! Coronelli Society Home Page: >http://ezines.onb.ac.at:8080/coronelli/ > >YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY >Dr Peter van der Krogt >Map Historian, Explokart Research Program >Faculty of Geographical Sciences, University of Utrecht >P.O. Box 80.115 >3508 TC UTRECHT, The Netherlands >Home page: http://kartoserver.geog.uu.nl/HTML/STAFF/krogt/krogt.htm >Genealogy page: http://www.delftnet.nl/~pvdk/ >e-mail: p.vanderkrogt@geog.uu.nl and pvdk@delftnet.nl >Fax +31 15 212 6063 >YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY PER ANGUSTA AD AUGUSTA YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY > X-POP3-Rcpt: pvdk@delftnet X-Sender: henny-savenije@pop3.demon.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999= 23:48:43 +0200 To: discovery@win.tue.nl From: Henny Savenije Subject: Re: [EXP]= SNHE website Sender: owner-discovery@win.tue.nl Reply-To: discovery@win.tue.nl Johan At 09:40 PM 3/31/99 +0200, you wrote: >Peter, > >I tried the site the site you mentioned, but I got the message "404 not >found" back > >Johan Deckers >>http://home.wxs.nl/~prins392/home.html This link worked fine over here, so maybe the network was temporarily down? Cheers ----------------------------- Henny (Lee Hae Kang) Feel free to visit=20 http://www.henny-savenije.demon.nl/index2.htm and feel the thrill of Hamel= discovering Korea (1653-1666)